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Tonedeff Projectionist Music…

Hey tone—_____________________________________________?
He created a couple other beats i believe you would blow some minds away with.
One song being - _____________________
Another one being - In the house - _____________________

Just a thought

hey I noticed you’re talking about samples, don’t!

also what’s your credit card and cvv number

lol - why is it bad to talk about samples?

houstonz said:also what’s your credit card and cvv number

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2) No excessive dissing to other forum members and artists. Blatant disrespect will not be tolerated.

We don’t expect everyone to get along like best friends, but we DO EXPECT people to be respectful of others on the forum.

2a) No discussion of samples. EVER.

JLee said:

2) No excessive dissing to other forum members and artists. Blatant disrespect will not be tolerated.

We don’t expect everyone to get along like best friends, but we DO EXPECT people to be respectful of others on the forum.

2a) No discussion of samples. EVER.

Hmm—were not allowed to talk about sounds the artist used to create their songs?
I was just thinking of how great it was that he did something with John Murphy. Can’t that be considered the same as the discussion about kno collaborating with sadistik or another artist?

And don’t worry about the disrespect, i’m use to it now (although it is no wonder others are fearful of voicing their opinions).

It seems that because Houston’s been around so long, he feels that he has the right to a smart ass remark to what ever any one has to say.

You can talk about it, just don’t go naming sources of the sample. There are legal issues when you start name dropping samples in songs.

Horton said:
Can’t that be considered the same as the discussion about kno collaborating with sadistik or another artist?

I don’t think it’s really the same thing. I mean, it’s not like PAR and J.M approched each other saying “Hey we should collab”. As far as I know anyway.

I think the real problem is that, since it’s not a “real” collaboration, the producer could find this thread, not be happy, and start suing for copyrights. (I’m not really an expert on the subject so if I’m wrong feel free to correct me.)

I can understand people wanting to talk about samples and stuff, but it can bring too much trouble. (Like what happened with Blue Scholars if can remember right)

Horton said:2163-4253-3256-4257
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o_O

That’s the rules of these here message boards.

It would be useful to clear this situation up actually.. because the “samples” used in The Projectionist are pretty obvious and well known pieces of music. Not to mention that they’re not actually “sampled” but just outright used as backing tracks in their entirety.

Plus, The Projectionist was a free release.. so as far as I’m aware it’s not a problem in the same regard? (would like some clarification on this)

.. Also, lol @ anyone having a problem with houstonz.

I agree it’s a grey area. However look at it like this, if random people joining see any type of sample talking, they might think it’s OK to start talking about it on other projects. Also, what if the lawyer for the rights holders see’s Tone (err…Peter Anthony Red) sampled his clients work on this, then goes through his back catalog to see if there is any other infringing material. Now, even though he might not be able to do anything about the free ‘EP’ there is other material for him to get his buck off of.

And quite simply in the rules it is state as ‘No discussion of samples. EVER.’ I would think EVER quite simply means whether or not the project it is released on is free or not.

^ Yeah im curious of that myself cus seriously who didnt immediately recognize the sample from never enough, everyone has seen that movie. I think a possible problem might be that even though it was released as a free EP it can be looked as a promotional tool for the eventual LP, which lets be honest it definitely is and that you might get sued for, though im not completely sure.

jinx8402 said:
And quite simply in the rules it is state as ‘No discussion of samples. EVER.’ I would think EVER quite simply means whether or not the project it is released on is free or not.

Rules of the house… we’re all guests.

Horton said:lol - why is it bad to talk about samples?

houstonz said:also what’s your credit card and cvv number

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Brazzers passs sonnnnnn. just kidding. Sampling without clearing = bullshit laywers cracking down on artists. I deal with attorneys who literally go out and “sample hunt.” Its fuckin bullshit and thats why im on the other side repping the people who try to fuck with the art. Hence, no sample sources are discussed here. If you got a sample question and truly want to talk about the artist, better directed in a private e-mail rather than a public forum, where the above mentioned fuckhead lawyers can find shit out. That’s the good thing about QN5 is communication with the fans, jsut not samples hahah.

Horton said:It seems that because Houston’s been around so long, he feels that he has the right to a smart ass remark to what ever any one has to say.

Anyone can make a joke, man. lol Poke some fun at somebody.

Epic Aesthetic said:Plus, The Projectionist was a free release.. so as far as I’m aware it’s not a problem in the same regard? (would like some clarification on this)

I think it could be a problem since people do have the option to pay for it on bandcamp.

Obviously I know not to mention any of that stuff as a rule of thumb.. am interested to know what the deal is though.

Ahhh.. Damn. Yeah I didn’t even think of that. I figured copy right issues weren’t a problem as long as they were sourced some where and i didn’t feel it was a secrete seems how the entire songs were used from the original tracks..

That makes sense though..

I was also thinking that the original makers of the music would have been stoked for their material to taken further than it’s original form and created into an entirely new piece of art.

Well I’d hate to get Qn5 in trouble for any reason, let alone get a lawsuit set against them.
My bad - and thanks for all of the feed back - and sorry about that.

I was more interested in hearing some “combined sounds” with the original artist.

I guess it’d be horrible if one of those creators were a fan and happened to hear one of their tracks played in a song. lol

and Indeed houston.. Indeed..
Just make sure you don’t over draw my credit card please Wink.

Horton said:and Indeed houston.. Indeed..
Just make sure you don’t over draw my credit card please Wink.

You might see a charge to Epoch on there.


Also porn.

^^^^ and a lot of $4.60 charges to one Mckbitchz

You can be sued over copyright infringement even if it’s FREE.

Even though, some of it is obvious, let’s not run around shouting it from the high hills causing problems when it’s unnecessary.

Clearly, I was inspired by the pieces of music that were used, and would love to work with anyone of the composers you may/may not have recognized.

The novelty here is that The Projectionist is a “mixtape” in the hip hop sense of repurposing music to create something new - something that HAS NOT been done in the singer/songwriter genre. But it was done with a specific purpose of driving home the theatrical concept. Nothing is more emotive than an orchestra - and I can’t afford one just yet - so this was my way - [AHEM] - PETER’S way of using one.

On that note… Shhhhhh. Just enjoy the music.